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jesse porter's avatar

What more can one ask of himself?

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Jackson Houser's avatar

Very clever use of quotation with the fish remark. You note that Zhuangzi wrote "...how do you know what makes fish happy" knowing that this was put into the mouth of the sage's friend after Zhuangzi pointed out that the fish below them were happy. I have been missing part of the subtlety of their dialog. Yes, the friend is right that the sage is not a fish so doesn't know how he knows, and the friend is not the sage so the friend doesn't know what the sage knows. I had read this as an attack on ad hominem arguments, which it is, but it is also the subtle point you wanted to make, I think, as a throwaway: the friend IS right: the sage doesn't know HOW he knows the fish are happy; and yet the sage is right: he knows THAT the fish are happy. And so for all of us, I think. Like you, I believe that each of us can know what is right for one's own self, even though I, myself, am not all of us. Thanks.

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